This article is based on material authored by members of the
news.newusers.questions
Moderation Board and nnq-workers mailing
list,
particularly by Jon Bell (until 2005)
and Thor Kottelin (since 2007).
How to go to soc.penpals or any other newsgroup
Introduction
Many newsreader programs present a first-time user with only a short list
of newsgroups, because the full list may contain several thousand
entries. Usually this list contains some of the "announce" groups, along
with news.newusers.questions, but little (if anything) else. This means
that the frequently-given advice to "go to soc.penpals if you want to ask
for email" sometimes brings the response, "but how do I go to soc.penpals?"
This article contains instructions on how to go to soc.penpals, using a
variety of newsreader programs. It assumes that you are currently
reading an article in news.newusers.questions,
and that you
are not currently "subscribed" to soc.penpals.
These instructions should of course work for any other newsgroup, if you
make the appropriate substitution for soc.penpals. :-)
If you don't see your favorite newsreader listed here, and you know how
to go to another newsgroup with it, please send us a description, and
we might give you a paragraph of Net fame.
If at some point you get a message that says something like "can't
find that newsgroup" or "that newsgroup doesn't exist", check your
spelling and capitalization carefully. Newsgroup names usually must be in
lower-case only. Also, some newsreaders may get confused if you put any
blank spaces before or after the newsgroup name. If you still can't get
to the newsgroup, that probably means that your news server doesn't carry
it. Contact your news server's administrator and ask if he/she can add
that newsgroup to your server.
Abbreviations
- Win
- Microsoft® Windows®
- Mac
- Mac OS
Newsreaders
- Win, Mac
- DOS and/or UNIX and/or VMS
Netscape Communicator 4.5 (Win, Mac)
- In the Netscape Communicator browser window click on Communicator in
the menu bar at the top of the window and then click on Newsgroups. If
you do not want to open the browser window first, click your START button
and look for Netscape Messenger, then click to open it.
- You will see three frames in the window that appears. In the left frame
click on the name of the news server to select it.
- In the menu bar again, click on File and then click Subscribe....
- The Subscribe to Newsgroups window that appears will have three "tabs"
at the top. Click All to view a list of all the newsgroups that are
available to you, if you want to look through the list for a group. Click
Search if you want to use the Search function, to find a group that you
already know the name of or click New to look through the list of new
newsgroups that have arrived since you last checked. - In the list
of groups, you will see a box with a + in it to the left of a newsgroup
name. Click the + to expand that section of the listings.
- To subscribe to a group you can either click the name of the group to
select it and then click the Subscribe button to the right OR, in the
Newsgroup: dialog box near the top of the All window you can type
in the name of a group. When you begin to type, the list below will
advance to match the letters as you type them in, in alphabetical order
from left to right. You will probably find the name of the group before
you finish typing it! Once found, again, click the Subscribe button
(or click the dot in the Subscribe column to make a check mark appear).
- Once you have subscribed to all the newsgroups that you want, click the
OK button to close the window.
Written by Dennis D. Calhoun (dcalhoun at blomand.net), 13 Feb 1999.
Netscape Communicator 4.0x (Win, Mac)
- In the Netscape Communicator browser window click on Communicator in
the menu bar at the top of the window and then click on Collabra
Discussion Groups. If you do not want to open the browser window first,
click your START button and look for Netscape Collabra, then click to
open it.
- You will see three frames in the window that appears. In the left frame
click on the name of the news server to select it.
- In the menu bar again, click on File and then click Subscribe to
Discussion Groups....
- The Subscribe to Newsgroups window that appears will have three "tabs"
at the top. Click All to view a list of all the newsgroups that are
available to you, if you want to look through the list for a group. Click
Search if you want to use the Search function, to find a group that you
already know the name of or click New to look through the list of new
newsgroups that have arrived since you last checked. - In the list
of groups, you will see a box with a + in it to the left of a newsgroup
name. Click the + to expand that section of the listings.
- To subscribe to a group you can either click the name of the group to
select it and then click the Subscribe button to the right,
or you can type the name of a group into the
Newsgroup: dialog box near the top of the All window.
When you begin to type, the list below will
advance to match the letters as you type them in, in alphabetical order
from left to right. You will probably find the name of the group before
you finish typing it! Once found, again, click the Subscribe button
(or click the dot in the Subscribe column to make a check mark appear).
- Once you have subscribed to all the newsgroups that you want, click the
OK button to close the window.
Written by Dennis D. Calhoun (dcalhoun at blomand.net), 13 Feb 1999.
Netscape 2.x or 3.x (Win, Mac)
- Go back to the Netscape News window.
- Go to the Options menu and click on Show Subscribed Groups.
- If soc.penpals is in your list of subscribed newsgroups, skip ahead to
step 6.
- If soc.penpals is not in your list of subscribed newsgroups, go up to the
File menu. Click Add Newsgroup.
- Type soc.penpals in that box, and press the RETURN or ENTER key.
Netscape should update your list of subscribed newsgroups so that it
now includes soc.penpals.
- Click on the name soc.penpals. This should take you to the article
list for soc.penpals.
- Put a check mark in the box to the right of the name soc.penpals to
keep the group on your list of subscribed groups. (If you can't see the box,
drag the divider
between the upper windows to the right.)
Additional help with Netscape 3.x versions is available.
Netscape 1.x (Win, Mac)
- Go back to the list of articles for this newsgroup.
- Click on the Subscribed Newsgroups button at the top of the page.
- If soc.penpals is in your list of subscribed newsgroups, skip ahead
to step 6.
- If soc.penpals is not in your list of subscribed newsgroups, scroll
down to the bottom of the list, where you should see a box labeled
something like Subscribe to:.
- Type soc.penpals in that box, and press the RETURN or ENTER key.
Netscape should update your list of subscribed newsgroups so that it now
includes soc.penpals.
- Click on the name soc.penpals. This should take you to the article
list for soc.penpals.
WinVN (Win, Mac)
- Go to Config/Communications; make sure the setting to download group
list on connect is set to either Yes or Ask.
(Setting it to Yes downloads the entire list each time you connect to the
server; setting to Ask puts a Yes/No asking if you want the entire list.)
Also, make sure that the Show Unsubscribed Groups box is checked.
- Single-click on each group you want to subscribe to; then Go to Group;
select Subscribe Selected Groups.
- If you keep the entire list onscreen, subscribed groups will be in one
color, and unsubscribed groups will be in another (the defaults are black
(subscribed) and blue (unsubscribed)).
- You're done. If you don't want to see unsubscribed groups, go to
Config/Communications and uncheck the Show Unsubscribed Groups box.
Thanks to Christopher L. Estep
(christopher.estep at acenet.com),
5 Nov 1995.
Microsoft® Outlook Express 6 (Win)
Set up your news server account
This needs to be done only once.
- In Outlook Express, click Accounts on the Tools menu.
- In the Internet Accounts dialog box, click Add, and then click News.
- In the Display Name box, type the name you want other people to see when you post a message
(for example Jane Doe), and then click Next.
- In the E-mail Address box, type the email address for the account you are using (for example, janedoe@example.com),
and then click Next.
- In the News (NNTP) Server box, type the name of your Internet news server.
- If you are required to log on, tick the My news server requires me to log on check box. Click Next.
- If you are required to log on, type your account name and password for your news server in the News Account Name and Password boxes.
Your Internet service provider (ISP) should provide this information for you.
If you do not know this information, contact your ISP.
If necessary, tick the Log on using Secure Password Authentication (SPA) box.
- Click Finish in the Congratulations screen.
Subscribe to the group
- In the Folders pane of Outlook Express, click the name of your news server.
- In the right-side pane, click on the Newsgroups button.
- In the Display newsgroups which contain area, type soc.penpals.
- You should now see soc.penpals in the Newsgroup list on the All tab.
If not,
check your spelling,
and make sure you are viewing the All tab.
If you still do not see soc.penpals,
chances are your ISP's news server does not carry it.
Ask your ISP to add the group.
- Click on soc.penpals, then on the Subscribe button, and then OK.
- You should now see soc.penpals in the Folders pane, under the name of your news server.
If there is a + sign on the left side of the news server name,
click on the + to expand the group list.
Click on soc.penpals,
and wait as the message headers load into the right-side pane.
Microsoft® Outlook Express 4.x (Win, Mac)
Detailed instructions are available at
Microsoft Support Online.
Microsoft® Internet News 3.x (Win, Mac)
- In the Microsoft Internet Explorer browser window click on Go in the
menu bar at the top of the window, and then click Read News. That will
open your "default" newsreader which might or might not be Microsoft
Internet News. If you want to open MS Internet News directly, click on
your Start button and look for Internet News, then click to open it.
- In the Internet News window, click the Newsgroups button.
- The Newsgroups window that appears will have three "tabs" near the
bottom of the window.
- Click All to view a list of all the newsgroups
that are available to you, if you want to look through the list for a
group.
- Click Subscribed to view a list of the newsgroups that you are
already subscribed to.
- Click New to look through the list of new
newsgroups that have arrived since you last checked.
- To subscribe to a group you can either click the name of the group to
select it and then click the Subscribe button to the right, or, in the
Display newsgroups which contain: dialog box near the top of the All
window you can type in the name of a group. (When you begin to type, the
list below will narrow to match the letters as you type them in. The
list will display all it's newsgroups that contain the entered letters
anywhere within any newsgroup name, not orderly from left to right. With
each additional letter that you enter, the list will narrow further.)
- Once you've found the name of a newsgroup that you want to subscribe to,
click the name of it to select it and then click the Subscribe button
to the right.
- Once you have subscribed to all the newsgroups that you want, click the
OK button to close the window.
- Back in the Internet News window, in the Newsgroups box in the toolbar
you will see one newsgroup name listed (usually it is the newsgroup that
you last visited) and your list of subscribed newsgroups can be "pulled
down" by clicking on the down arrow at the right end of that box. Click
any one of the subscribed newsgroup names within that pull down menu to
go to that newsgroup.
Written by Dennis D. Calhoun (dcalhoun at blomand.net), 13 Feb 1999.
Agent/Free Agent (Win, Mac)
The Help section of Agent and Free Agent includes easy to use instructions
that we need not repeat here. To access those instructions, open the
program and click on Help then Contents and then the link Getting
Started".
Yet Another Newswatcher (YA Newswatcher) (Mac)
- From the Special menu, select Get Group List from Host.
- This takes quite a while, do nothing until you see a new, large window
with an alphabetical list of all newsgroups your provider carries.
- Scroll down to soc.penpals
- Click the group name once to select it.
- From the Special menu, select Subscribe. This also takes a few moments,
be patient. When finished you will see another tiny window labeled
Untitled with soc.penpals listed in it.
- Click the close box at the far left of the Untitled title bar. You will
be given an option of saving this. Name it and navigate to the place you
wish to keep this. Clicking the Desktop button is a good idea, you can
save it there for ease of use. Double clicking this icon will now open YA
Newswatcher and show you a list of your subscribed groups.
- The next time you open YA Newswatcher, you can go to the Windows menu
and select Show Full Group List.
- Any other groups you wish to subscribe to can be dragged from the full
list and dropped into your subscribed list. Be sure to save when closing
the newsreader.
Written by Cipher (cipher at mindspring.com), 14 Feb1999.
pine (DOS, UNIX)
- Press L to go to your "folder list".
- Use the arrow keys to select your "news collection" and press return or
enter; you should now see your current list of newsgroups.
- Press A to subscribe to a new newsgroup; you should now see the prompt
Enter group to subscribe to:.
- Type soc.penpals and press return
or enter; soc.penpals should
now be in your newsgroup list, and should be highlighted.
- Press return or enter to go to the list of articles.
slrn (UNIX, VMS)
- From the group selection level, press L (capital L)
- Enter soc.penpals at the prompt
- Press s to subscribe
- Press L again
This is all explained on the first screen of the slrn group help
Thanks to John E. Davis (davis at space.mit.edu), 20 Oct 1995.
tin (UNIX)
- q - quits out of current article
- q - quits out of current newsgroup back to newsgroup listing
- y - toggles back and forth between listing ALL available
newsgroups and only subscribed newsgroups (toggle until
it lists ALL available newsgroups)
- g - goto; type soc.penpals ENTER (if the group exists at
that site and no typos are made, tin will jump to that group)
- s - subscribe
- y - toggle back to only subscribed newsgroups
Thanks to an anonymous contributor, 17 Oct 1995.
trn (UNIX)
- Type q to return to the thread selector (the list of
article subjects).
- Type q again to return to the newsgroup selection prompt (nnnn
unread articles in some.news.group--read now?).
- Type g soc.penpals to "go" to that newsgroup; trn should ask,
Newsgroup soc.penpals not in .newsrc -- subscribe?
- Type y; trn should now ask, Put newsgroup where?
- Type $ to put soc.penpals at the end of your newsgroup list; you
should now see the newsgroup selection prompt again (nnnn unread
articles in soc.penpals--read now?).
- Type y. You should now see the thread selector for soc.penpals.